"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
06/10/2020 at 15:37 • Filed to: Planelopnik, 737 Max, boeing
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"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
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Frankly , I just want to know who has this tealicious livery.
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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:41 |
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I would not fly on a 737 Max right now. I don’t want to catch COVID-19 AND die in a crash at the same time.
just-a-scratch
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:41 |
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That color is just there on the fuselage barrels when they arrive for final assembly. It’s not an airline paint color.
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Just Jeepin'
> just-a-scratch
06/10/2020 at 15:42 |
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Well, shit.
ranwhenparked
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:43 |
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You’d think they’d have learned not to make such statements public by now, at this point, 737 Max recertification is the aircraft equivalent of Willy Brandt Airport - a seemingly reasonable target date that keeps getting pushed back and back indefinitely until you can’t keep track of how many deadlines have been missed.
At this point, just keep quietly working on it, and make a surprise announcement after you’ve succeeded in doing it, no more dates in advance.
MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:45 |
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Hey Boeing...ever consider a re-brand? I want nothing to do with flying on one of these.
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just-a-scratch
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:46 |
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It’s pretty cool to see them transported though.
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Just Jeepin'
> ranwhenparked
06/10/2020 at 15:47 |
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I don’t believe this was a statement; whether the leak was authorized or not, no idea.
facw
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:47 |
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Yep, they have it even when they first emerge from the river:
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facw
> CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
06/10/2020 at 15:48 |
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I’d fly on one but I’d want it no more than 1/3rd full.
MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
> CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
06/10/2020 at 15:48 |
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But if you die in a crash you don’t suffer from COVID anymore
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facw
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:48 |
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Well they can hope, but I’d imagine airlines would probably prefer Boeing take their time right now, it’s not like they need those planes at the moment.
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Just Jeepin'
> facw
06/10/2020 at 15:51 |
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What the hell?
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Just Jeepin'
> facw
06/10/2020 at 15:52 |
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Yeah, I assume there are other PR aspects like trying to get federal aid, otherwise it definitely wouldn’t seem like the right time to rush anything.
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facw
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:53 |
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Just a little joke.
The real story is they build them in Wichita and then ship them by rail to Seattle for final assembly. They made their 10000th delivery in 2018:
The three pictured above are a shipment that fell into a river after their train derailed.
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Just Jeepin'
> facw
06/10/2020 at 15:54 |
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Oops.
SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:56 |
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That’s actually the way they come from Spirit in Wichita...
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ranwhenparked
> MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
06/10/2020 at 15:56 |
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I think they have started quietly removing the “Max” name from some marketing materials, in favor of just 737-7, 737-8, etc.
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SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
> facw
06/10/2020 at 15:57 |
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Spawning season! Then they throw themselves up on the banks and die... The circle of life completes.
For Sweden
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:57 |
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The only way I can confirm if 2020 hates me is if another 737 MAX crashes.
Sure it will hate the victims more, but I will still recognize the hate to me.
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For Sweden
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 15:58 |
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They’re climbing on shore to lay eggs.
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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
06/10/2020 at 15:58 |
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I’d love for them rename themselves as “the a ircraft m anufacturer formerly known as Boeing”
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facw
> MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
06/10/2020 at 15:58 |
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I wouldn’t be shocked. Ryanair did relabel at least one place to hide the MAX before they were all grounded:
I wouldn’t expect Boeing to ditch the 737 branding, but it would make a lot of sense to avoid MAX. Then again I thought Samsung would ditch the “Note” branding after that debacle, and I was clearly wrong.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:00 |
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Counter point: maybe they have already paid for the planes and due to increase capacity and increased efficiency they would be flying the MAX if allowed.
Gone
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:01 |
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After surviving a harrowing upstream swim , these 737 fu se lages are returning to land in order to nest and lay their eggs.
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facw
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
06/10/2020 at 16:02 |
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Even if they have already paid, I think right now they’d prefer to just force concessions out of Boeing for the delay than actually take delivery of an aircraft people don’t trust.
ttyymmnn
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:08 |
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MCAS?
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ttyymmnn
> For Sweden
06/10/2020 at 16:08 |
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No, that’s Boeing as a whole who is laying eggs these days
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facw
> ttyymmnn
06/10/2020 at 16:12 |
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I don’t think MCAS can crash a 737 until you attach the tail at least...
gettingoldercarguy
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 16:14 |
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The flu kills way more people per year than the 737 max.
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ttyymmnn
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:17 |
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I thought maybe it was on the train.
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facw
> ttyymmnn
06/10/2020 at 16:18 |
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Have you seen an American train? We can’t even get the signalling to say “go X mph” working in the vast majority of them...
RallyWrench
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 16:22 |
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So this will be the airplane from the meme I’ve seen:
“2020 is like looking both ways before crossing the street then getting hit by an airplane.”
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ttyymmnn
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:23 |
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That being said, I rode the train from NYC to Norfolk last December, and it was really rather pleasant. Paid for the more expensive seats, had power and shitty wifi, but I got lots of work done and was not stiff and sore when I arrived.
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ttyymmnn
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 16:25 |
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Others have spoken about the teal being the unpainted aircraft, but Vietnam Airlines does have a lovely teal(ish) livery.
Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:25 |
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I remember when that happened. Curious to know if they were able to salvage those fuses and complete them.
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Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
> ranwhenparked
06/10/2020 at 16:26 |
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Maybe somebody felt BA’s stock needed a boost.
Grindintosecond
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:28 |
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I thought they cut them down from the sustainably grown Boeing forests and float them down the river to the mills where they are assembled into finely made flying furniture sets.
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Grindintosecond
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 16:31 |
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The difficulty is getting the foreign nations on board with this as many have just sworn off the plane or are not cooperating the way Boeing wants due to government pride/business ideals/Airbus lobbying efforts against, etc.
But at least they have plans that the carriers using the plane can work with to set up their own recurrent/differences training they will have to do.
I’m going to see that training this fall. So far that is the plan. If not, oh well, some other time. I’m not worried. I’m in a good place.
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facw
> ttyymmnn
06/10/2020 at 16:32 |
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Amtrak is in the process of updating their regional trains as well. And of course Virginia has announced a massive plan to expand rail capacity and electrification, which will let Amtrak and VRE run more trains. This isn’t currently planed, but conceivably it could mean extending the Northeast Corridor Acela service down to Richmond (and you could imagine it going on beyond there to North Carolina). Amtrak also just started testing their second-gen Acela trains this year, with plans to launch service in 2021.
Chariotoflove
> facw
06/10/2020 at 16:32 |
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You can tell the one in the middle is the MAX of the litter, since it’s nose down.
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ranwhenparked
> facw
06/10/2020 at 17:04 |
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Too bad Yamaha already has the trademark, 737 Stratoliner has a nice ring to it.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Chariotoflove
06/10/2020 at 19:09 |
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Old habits die
Dusty Ventures
> Just Jeepin'
06/10/2020 at 19:09 |
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Yes, because 2020 is the PERFECT year to reinstate a plane with the most infamous fatal flaw since the De Havilland Comet. What could possibly go wrong
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> Dusty Ventures
06/10/2020 at 21:15 |
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A330s had a similar issue. luckily 4 of the 5 times the crew were able to undo autopilot and control the aircraft. Also helped they were at cruising altitude and not vulnerable while climbing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_Flight_72
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_data_inertial_reference_unit#Failures_and_directives
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gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> facw
06/10/2020 at 21:45 |
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A max 8 is 2.13l/100km per seat., Max9 2.5.
The 757 is 3l/100km/seat.
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facw
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
06/10/2020 at 21:56 |
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And I’d imagine most 757s are parked right now. A 737-900 is 2.66 (though numbers from the same source say 2.28 for the MAX 8 and MAX 9). So for that ~ 17% greater efficiency (at a time when fuel prices are very low) , do you really want to be paying for the aircraft (if you haven’t already paid the full purchase price), eating the additional storage/maintenance costs of additional planes, and dealing with the potential customer discomfort of flying on an “ unsafe” aircraft in an already unsafe situation? Or do you want Boeing to continue to delay delivery, and force them to make payments or other concessions for the late delivery? Seems like it should be the latter.
Boeing of course wants things out the door as soon as humanly possible, but it’s not at all clear to be it’s in the airlines interest. They probably won’t really need those planes until next summer.
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Dusty Ventures
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
06/10/2020 at 23:34 |
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I mostly just used the Comet
because it’s such a dramatic and catastrophic flaw.
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gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> Dusty Ventures
06/10/2020 at 23:36 |
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how not to metal